| sjrbat
- 01 Jan 2012
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We have had many changes in the 5-10 rankings in the last few months. Tim dropped his ranking, I beat Brian, August beat me, Q beat August, I beat Q, August beat me again, and now Pete has beaten August.
The top 4 has also had a change, Billy beating Ehab.
So this is just an interesting topic to start.
Who do you think are the REAL top 15 ACTIVE players in the sport right now?
I will start on the next post.
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| sjrbat
- 01 Jan 2012
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1. Danny
2. Billy
3. Ehab
4. Davis
5. Tim
6. Jose
7. Will
8. Anthony
9. Jimmy
10. Nizzi
11. Fletcher
12. Brian
13. Nick
14. Travis
15. Q
Pedro O., Andy Y., and Don J. would probably be on this list but they are either inactive or over-seas (in which case we do not know how they are playing).
Just a discussion for fun.....
Take care....
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- 01 Jan 2012
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| Syed, put yourself in there somewhere.....not too high.....not too low.;)
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| Mike C
- 01 Jan 2012
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| Your list looks more like the top 15 from 2005 with the exception of Q. To say these are the top 15 seems to be out of respect. You, August and Albert definitely deserve top 15 for your performance Actively. You have to claim it now because in 2020 most of these people will fall off this list with the exception of Q.
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- 01 Jan 2012
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| What?!? Most of these people will fall off this list in 8 years? How so? Look at the top 15 eight years ago and its mostly the same as now.
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| carolina phil
- 01 Jan 2012
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Several new youngsters will be advancing and a few veterans will be back in the top 15 where we belong by 2020 (Mark, Jesse, Vince, Carolina).
Carolina Phil
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| goran
- 01 Jan 2012
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| Syed's list looks good, I'd move Nizzi above will.
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| Mike C
- 01 Jan 2012
Total Posts: 459
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| What I'm saying is that there are some in this listing that are clearly inactive now and over the course of the next 8 years there will be a large group of up and coming 20 somethings ready to take the reins from the established players.
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- 01 Jan 2012
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Everyone on that list has played in a tournament this last year except maybe jimmy. I'd agree that some are more active than others though. I'd like to make an argument that the newbies and youth won't just come in and replace our current masters and such, but Pete just ****** that up for me. THANKS PETE!!!
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| sjrbat
- 01 Jan 2012
Total Posts: 527
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Nizzi:
I would probably be in the 11-15 range.
Mike:
Everybody on that list has played in at least one tournament in the last year and a half. The top 5 are almost the same as the last tournament finishes. Nizzi finished top 10 in Vegas. Will finished 2nd in Chicago a few months ago. Jose and Jimmy finished in the top 10 in the 2010 nationals. But you are correct in that there will be changes due to the upcoming players in the field now.
I think you, Colin, Keith G., maybe Donovan or Pete, and Ramiro have a great chance of pulling off an upset or two in the next tournament.
I also think Albert, August (despite his loss to Pete), and I have a chance to give the top 5 a challenge.
Take care......
Syed
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| ajflanagan
- 01 Jan 2012
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| Niz, Pete isn't a newbie. He's been around for years. In fact before last night, his claim to fame was taking a set off Owen in a weekly many years ago. As we all do to some extent or another. Pete took a few (dozen) years to live life. Last year he found us playing at SRO and he has been commited to getting as much "table time" as he could ever since. The guy plays several times a week with players like Syed, August, Ramiro, Justin Flores, etc.
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- 01 Jan 2012
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| Really? Never heard of Pete Simple before. :)
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| Petesimple
- 01 Jan 2012
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ajflanagan said: | Niz, Pete isn't a newbie. He's been around for years. In fact before last night, his claim to fame was taking a set off Owen in a weekly many years ago. As we all do to some extent or another. Pete took a few (dozen) years to live life. Last year he found us playing at SRO and he has been commited to getting as much "table time" as he could ever since. The guy plays several times a week with players like Syed, August, Ramiro, Justin Flores, etc. |
Thanks Andrew,
You forgot to mention two things though, Hynes was one of my practice buddies back in the day. I remember the low top Danny and I took Owen in a final match of a local tourny declining my points. A little harder than a handicap.
;)
www.petesimple.com
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| stubbs7
- 01 Jan 2012
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sjrbat said: 1. Danny
2. Billy
3. Ehab
4. Davis
5. Tim
6. Jose
7. Will
8. Anthony
9. Jimmy
10. Nizzi
11. Fletcher
12. Brian
13. Nick
14. Travis
15. Q
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I'm a sucker for making a list, and Syed's list looks just about right to me! It's also very close to the Mitic Ratings. I think that speaks a lot to which method we should use when seeding our tournaments and determining the rankings.
Wil is a bit too high based on the last time that I saw him play at the IL State in May of 2011. Wil finished 3rd that tournament - losing 4-0 to Jose. Wil just looked too out of practice and was only a shadow of his former self. But if Wil had a few months to get back into practice, then who knows?
Nizzi could be higher if we're taking challenge match performance into account - in which case Nizzi is in definitely in the top 6. If we're not considering challenge matches, then I think Nizzi at 10th place in the list is justified.
Slot 15 could be occupied by a few players depending on how they're playing on any given day: Goran, Syed, Q, and Albert to name a few.
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| Pedro Otero
- 01 Jan 2012
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had anyone seen the videos i uploaded recently? Im not playing at the top 15 level?  If so, then i will train even harder to climb the top.
Im pretty sure Daniel Ordonez could make master elite if he plays next nationals.
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| carolina phil
- 01 Jan 2012
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I have not viewed your videos yet, but I have not felt the need to do so. You are top 15 in my book for sure. Once a man has seen a Great Eagle soaring, he never forgets him!
Phil A.
Pedro Otero said: had anyone seen the videos i uploaded recently? Im not playing at the top 15 level? If so, then i will train even harder to climb the top.
Im pretty sure Daniel Ordonez could make master elite if he plays next nationals. |
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| fractalzoom
- 02 Jan 2012
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I haven't seen Pedro Play, but I've seen Javier play. I'd say Javier should be top 15. In Vegas he gave Davis fits and nearly beat Fletcher.
I think we tend to get a little too US centric.
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| carolina phil
- 02 Jan 2012
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The AH history books will document that our jingoism got ruptured when Jose and Pedro not only got first and second back in the 90's, but did it three Nationals in a row! Our greatest and best failed to hold them back. It was an incredible revelation and smack right between the eyes--the same non USA persons finishing first and second three events in a row. It felt like Sherman burning down Atlanta to me, or the Goths overruning Rome in 476 AD.
Pardon me, but I must add that only Jesse and I did that for the first three years of ah Nationals. It has not happened except for those two examples.
Pedro and I share the same fate of being bridesmaids three consecutive years. Me five total. However, it ain't over till its over! The Eagle and Carolina are still in the hunt, while our two foes are fading from the scene like dew in the morning sunshine.
Carolina Phil
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- 02 Jan 2012
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| Pedro will finish at least top 6 if he's in practice. IMO.
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