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Petesimple - 14 Sep 2011
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http://youarenotsosmart.com/2010/05/11/the-dunning-kruger-effect/

I fall into the category of don't know what the heck I'm doing playing air hockey, but I love to play :)

www.petesimple.com

 
airhockeyjedi - 15 Sep 2011
Total Posts: 102
There is the Dunning-Kruger effect and there also is "I don't deserve to win" effect. In practice or weeklies some players do great. Then, in higher pressure situations like WCO some players under-perform by saying to themselves "I don't deserve to finish that high, I never did before, others deserve the win, not I."

Some players have an opposite reaction and under-perform during practice and weeklies and then feed on the thrill of playing in a major tournament. They get in a zone for majors.

Some of us have dilutions about what we are, or are not capable of doing. Some players have the X-Factor that can also be easily lost and never return back to their game.

Vince Schappell
2007-2009 USAA Treasurer
USAA Member since 1980
 
Mike C - 15 Sep 2011
Total Posts: 459
"Your narrow advantage over novices leads you to think you are the shit."


A lot of people suffer from the comment above, me included at times!
 
airhockeyjedi - 16 Sep 2011
Total Posts: 102
A story to share relating to the theme and Mike's quote from the article...

A number of years ago I was at one of my accounts and met a guy who said he was an AH champ in California. Said he never lost. Told him that night was a weekly handicapped tourney at Barney's and invited him. He showed up and entered.

Well, as it goes, I had to play him in the first round. Thinking that perhaps he would be tough to beat, I didn't give an inch and scored seven straight points. Crushed him. I think he must have played other novices back in California.

We never saw him since then.

Vince Schappell
2007-2009 USAA Treasurer
USAA Member since 1980
 
sjrbat - 16 Sep 2011
Total Posts: 527
Great article Pete!!! Some of our players do show these signs.
 
sjrbat - 16 Sep 2011
Total Posts: 527
Just wanted to add another note. A lot of our top players embrace new players and try to get them back. This used to be not the case. So I am happy to say our atmosphere has changed over the years, mainly because of Danny.
 
airhockeyjedi - 19 Sep 2011
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Good point by Syed. When weekly tournaments around Houston were flourishing back in the 80's, I encouraged the new breed of players to pass along airhockey tips to they learned to the next newbies. I use to say "Your game will improve by teaching others, which gives you a greater understanding of strategy and technique."

Vince Schappell
2007-2009 USAA Treasurer
USAA Member since 1980
 
Petesimple - 20 Sep 2011
Total Posts: 319
airhockeyjedi said:
Good point by Syed. When weekly tournaments around Houston were flourishing back in the 80's, I encouraged the new breed of players to pass along airhockey tips to they learned to the next newbies. I use to say "Your game will improve by teaching others, which gives you a greater understanding of strategy and technique."


Nice! Speaking of encouraging the sport I just got off the phone with Adam Finney, the head of intramural sports at UH, he said the calendar was full up this year for a new sport. Airhockey is not an intramural game anymore so it is considered "new". However, we can schedule an exhibition through the right channels and get on next years intramural calendar for the fall, with enough student interest. I have a bunch of names and numbers to follow up with this conversation thanks to Adam. If anyone wants to throw their name in the hat to make this a fun promo day for AH please let me know. I think we could get some really great new players from this hometown university to start learning this game that we all love.

www.petesimple.com

 
travis - 20 Sep 2011
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Petesimple said:
Nice! Speaking of encouraging the sport I just got off the phone with Adam Finney, the head of intramural sports at UH, he said the calendar was full up this year for a new sport. Airhockey is not an intramural game anymore so it is considered "new". However, we can schedule an exhibition through the right channels and get on next years intramural calendar for the fall, with enough student interest. I have a bunch of names and numbers to follow up with this conversation thanks to Adam. If anyone wants to throw their name in the hat to make this a fun promo day for AH please let me know. I think we could get some really great new players from this hometown university to start learning this game that we all love.


Awesome, dude! Let me know when you're going to do it, and I'll try to make myself available... or at the very least, promote it on here and the FB page!

Travis Luscombe
AirHockeyWorld.com Webmaster
http://twitter.com/air_hockey
 
corydzbinski - 08 Jan 2012
Total Posts: 148
Hi, do you have contact info for this guy? Would love to see if he's still playing or wants to play & learn.

airhockeyjedi said:
A story to share relating to the theme and Mike's quote from the article...

A number of years ago I was at one of my accounts and met a guy who said he was an AH champ in California. Said he never lost. Told him that night was a weekly handicapped tourney at Barney's and invited him. He showed up and entered.

Well, as it goes, I had to play him in the first round. Thinking that perhaps he would be tough to beat, I didn't give an inch and scored seven straight points. Crushed him. I think he must have played other novices back in California.

We never saw him since then.


 
airhockeyjedi - 09 Jan 2012
Total Posts: 102
Don't remember his name and that was the only time anyone ever saw him. This was back around 1983 or 1984. Probably Phil Arnold and Robert Hernandez were there at the Barney's weekly too but I doubt it they would remember.

Vince Schappell
2007-2009 USAA Treasurer
USAA Member since 1980
 
tableman - 09 Jan 2012
Total Posts: 690
airhockeyjedi said:
Don't remember his name and that was the only time anyone ever saw him. This was back around 1983 or 1984. Probably Phil Arnold and Robert Hernandez were there at the Barney's weekly too but I doubt it they would remember.


He's probably old and fat and retired by now, basking in memories of his former greatness - just like other legends in their own mind, like Fate Jackson in Colorado and Lightning Bolt Humphries in Georgia.

If you want to search out a former player who really WAS great, that would be former National finalist Paul Burger. Last time I looked he was living in Burbank or Pasadena or somewhere like that.

Mark
 

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